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Preorders for the new JRI long travel for the Xpedition starts February 3rd. While this is a new name in the SxS long travel scene, the people behind it aren’t. Brandon Twitch was the driving force behind HCR before its acquisition by SATV, and now it appears he’s heading up this new brand. I expect we’ll see the same or better quality in design, strength and functionality as from his, and his team’s, previous work.

 
Damn. That looks like a great kit and value if it’s as it seems. He obviously has the experience and hopefully the follow through. Hope he does well.
 
Whats the difference between long travel and mid travel ?? How much "travel" or "extra travel" does each provide ??? I'm having a hard time understanding what these kits DO for you. I've read that long travel doesn't add any ride height and that isn't possible if your increasing travel.
 
Whats the difference between long travel and mid travel ?? How much "travel" or "extra travel" does each provide ??? I'm having a hard time understanding what these kits DO for you. I've read that long travel doesn't add any ride height and that isn't possible if your increasing travel.
One is Stock, One has Long/Mid Travel… Unknown why they are calling it Mid Travel, as it’s a Lot More Travel than Stock..!
 

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Whats the difference between long travel and mid travel ?? How much "travel" or "extra travel" does each provide ??? I'm having a hard time understanding what these kits DO for you. I've read that long travel doesn't add any ride height and that isn't possible if your increasing travel.
From what I’ve read, it’s basically a classification based on the actual suspension travel. By adding longer suspension arms, but maintaining OEM shock geometry, it’s only adding a “Mid” amount of travel based on the length of the arm. Actual “Long Travel” either changes the shock geometry or uses longer shocks to increase the overall travel distance of the suspension.
it’s not clear how much additional suspension travel is the step between Mid and Long Travel. But the term “Long Travel” has been loosely applied to everything that has longer suspension arms or increases the machine’s width. HCR and JRI classifying it as “Mid Travel” is basically giving it the proper definition, where the overall travel is only increased proportionate to the length of the arms.
 
As for height, there’s multiple factors that affect that. Typically, you use larger tires with the mid travel kit, (I’ve yet to see anyone keep 30” tires on a mid travel machine 😂) and the height increases proportionate to the tire size. Stock A-arms only allow up to a 33” tire, while Mid Travel allows up to a 35”. Mid Travel + Portals can go much larger.
You can also adjust spring preload to gain height.
Also, a suspension manufacturer can kick the ends of the suspension arms down to add base height while maintaining shock geometry. (I think Thumper Fab does this, but I’m not certain)
 
Preorders for the new JRI long travel for the Xpedition starts February 3rd. While this is a new name in the SxS long travel scene, the people behind it aren’t. Brandon Twitch was the driving force behind HCR before its acquisition by SATV, and now it appears he’s heading up this new brand. I expect we’ll see the same or better quality in design, strength and functionality as from his, and his team’s, previous work.


I am surprised that they didn't make him sign a do not compete agreement. Seems stupid of ATV to buy the business and then let him compete with them
 
I am surprised that they didn't make him sign a do not compete agreement. Seems stupid of ATV to buy the business and then let him compete with them
That would depend on his actual position within the company at the time of the acquisition. Also, non-competes are very difficult to enforce.

I personally see them competing as a good thing for the consumer. Competition helps keep prices even and pushes innovation.
Also, I have nothing against HCR. They still appear to be a top quality product. We’ve got a set since HCR moved manufacturing and there’s a definite difference in welding style on the pieces, but it still looks top quality.
 
From what I’ve read, it’s basically a classification based on the actual suspension travel. By adding longer suspension arms, but maintaining OEM shock geometry, it’s only adding a “Mid” amount of travel based on the length of the arm. Actual “Long Travel” either changes the shock geometry or uses longer shocks to increase the overall travel distance of the suspension.
it’s not clear how much additional suspension travel is the step between Mid and Long Travel. But the term “Long Travel” has been loosely applied to everything that has longer suspension arms or increases the machine’s width. HCR and JRI classifying it as “Mid Travel” is basically giving it the proper definition, where the overall travel is only increased proportionate to the length of the arms.
Yeah, thats my question I guess, how much "travel" do you gain from the systems ?? It doesn't seem to add a whole lot of actual travel. Just more room for bigger tires as you stated, but bigger tires don't give you more travel.
 
Yeah, thats my question I guess, how much "travel" do you gain from the systems ?? It doesn't seem to add a whole lot of actual travel. Just more room for bigger tires as you stated, but bigger tires don't give you more travel.
I’m just starting another Xpedition build, so as soon as get to doing the suspension I’ll try to remember and measure the travel difference.

Typically, especially with these machines, it’s not about additional suspension travel, but more for larger tires and more ground clearance, wider stance for added stability, simply for the appearance, or any combination of those. Also, with the added leverage of the longer arms, it can cushion the ride considerably.
 
Brandon Twitchell was the GM of HCR. So I guess a non compete with him would be impossible to do. Now if the arms are exact copies of HCR's stuff then he might see a lawsuit coming.
I agree though, the more competition the better
 
Brandon Twitchell was the GM of HCR. So I guess a non compete with him would be impossible to do. Now if the arms are exact copies of HCR's stuff then he might see a lawsuit coming.
I agree though, the more competition the better
There’s definitely enough difference in the styling to avoid design copyright.
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